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Certification of Aerospace Products to international quality Standards
Certification of Aerospace Products to international quality Standards
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Conditions to renew qualification (ACP-006) of EN4124-060 and EN3013-060 nuts under EN3005 technical specification:
• Grain size examination is required for acceptance “A” of the manufactured batch and for FAI (see paragraphes of EN3005). Please provide ASD-CERT with photos of micrographic cuts of each nut.
• Dimensional report showing values is required for a renewal (ACP-006) report; please provide ASD-CERT with this dimensional report for each nut.
• Confirmation of no change in the material source since the previous qualification as per ACP-006 procedure of ASD-CERT Quality manual. Otherwise, an ACP-008 request has to be sent to ASD-CERT.
• The manufacturing route shows two alternative sub-contractors (DICKSON or WESTMORELAND) for laboratory tests even though the filled and signed ACP-006 form in additional documents states “no” for change of manufacturing process. Which was the previously qualified sub-contractor under PQ262? If there is a change, an ACP-008 request shall be sent to ASD-CERT. The manufacturing route shall be updated with the previously qualified sub-contractor under PQ262.
• Please also provide ASD-CERT with the corresponding EN9100 and ISO17025 valid certificates for both laboratory test sub-contractors otherwise update the manufacturing route accordingly. An ACP-008 to cover the second sub-contractor will be sent later to ASD-CERT to cover the second sub-contractor.
Conditions to renew qualification (ACP-006) of EN4124-060 and EN3013-060 nuts under EN3005 technical specification:
• Grain size examination is required for acceptance “A” of the manufactured batch and for FAI (see paragraphes of EN3005). Please provide ASD-CERT with photos of micrographic cuts of each nut.
reply :
Micrography is performed on all batches manufactured. However, in the Lisi manufacturing process photos of micrographic mounts are only asked on qualifying lots ( specific router for initial qualification) . On ordinary production lots that are used for renewals, only the result of micrography is noted on the certificate of conformity for each batch. ( no specific router). This fact has been already accepted for previous renewal audit.
• Dimensional report showing values is required for a renewal (ACP-006) report; please provide ASD-CERT with this dimensional report for each nut.
reply :
See attached file added in the QTR report
• Confirmation of no change in the material source since the previous qualification as per ACP-006 procedure of ASD-CERT Quality manual. Otherwise, an ACP-008 request has to be sent to ASD-CERT.
reply:
LISI confirms that the approved material sources have not changed since the previous qualification as per ACP-006 procedure of ASD-CERT Quality manual.
• The manufacturing route shows two alternative sub-contractors (DICKSON or WESTMORELAND) for laboratory tests even though the filled and signed ACP-006 form in additional documents states “no” for change of manufacturing process. Which was the previously qualified sub-contractor under PQ262? If there is a change, an ACP-008 request shall be sent to ASD-CERT. The manufacturing route shall be updated with the previously qualified sub-contractor under PQ262.
Reply:
All mechanical tests have been carried out by LISI. LISI mentions alternative laboratories allowance to prevent any logistic concern in case of machine breakdown or bottlenecks.
• Please also provide ASD-CERT with the corresponding EN9100 and ISO17025 valid certificates for both laboratory test sub-contractors otherwise update the manufacturing route accordingly. An ACP-008 to cover the second sub-contractor will be sent later to ASD-CERT to cover the second sub-contractor.
reply:
see attached file added in the ” supplementary document upload” box ( it is not possible to add it in the box ” nadcap qualification” … )
Thanks Daniel for your replies. However I need a clarification on the Following:
The manufacturing route shows two alternative sub-contractors (DICKSON or WESTMORELAND) for laboratory tests even though the filled and signed ACP-006 form in additional documents states “no” for change of manufacturing process. Which was the previously qualified sub-contractor under PQ262? If there is a change, an ACP-008 request shall be sent to ASD-CERT. The manufacturing route shall be updated with the previously qualified sub-contractor under PQ262.
Reply:
All mechanical tests have been carried out by LISI. LISI mentions alternative laboratories allowance to prevent any logistic concern in case of machine breakdown or bottlenecks.
Reply:
To prevent logistic concern, LISI should sent to ASD-CERT enough in advance an ACP-008 to request the use of DICKSON or WESTMORELAND as alternative subcontractors to manufacture parts. The manufacturing route shall only show the qualified laboratory for mechanical tests (this is currently LISI itself). Please update the manufacturing route to show only LISI as qualified laboratory for mechanical tests to manufacture current parts.